is ferry morse seeds owned by monsanto?

Is that your point of view? The movie "Bitter Seed" is simply a movie. Ferry-Morse 3.6G Wildflower Sunny Meadow Mixture Flower Seeds Packet - Seed Gardening, Full Sunlight. And I'm not sure about Ecowatch, but supposedly that is a reliable website with news about the environment. My original question Are you against any of the things Monsanto has done or is doing? you dont want to answer. If you can tell their ideology from the title, it probably isn't. [And now about you]. First, you have fused two subjects together based on the fact that one uses the technology. There was no need to be offended, my addition of those key phrases might have indicated to you my intention to not offend you and that my mind was still open to further explanation. Very early in this thread, that problem was addressed and resolved. I am not a fan of Monsanto's practices or the other big agri-chem companies. I am not here for an in depth debate on GMOs since the premise of the thread is how to avoid GMO seeds. Seeds of Change is the original 100% Organic seed brand. I've already made my decision and I did enough research before I did to feel very comfortable with my choice. And I don't think Monsanto will own these forever, the way they go, not very long at all since it is such an insignificant business to them. Hopefully if it is explained well enough others might get a better understanding of the issue.". Only you, evidently, are in pursuit of the truth, and are not trying to mislead or manipulate? There is only room for one other comment before this post becomes to long for me. 0000014051 00000 n Not Monsanto, nor any company it owns or any company it has ever owned, will sell you GMO seeds. I dont think Monsanto will own these forever - You have no way of knowing what Monsanto will do. The recent development of the "Golden Rice Project" has aimed to genetically alter the staple crop to provide vitamin A to people who depend on rice for sustenance and as a result of their diet, often suffer severe deficiencies in the nutrient which can cause blindness and increases infant mortality rates in the developing world.In fact, as the worlds population continues to grow, use of GE crops shows significant promise to stabilizing the worlds food supply. In my opinion, it should not even be legal to do that. I purchase more seed from FEDCO, than Monsanto (Better Boy, Early Girl). Wouldn't it appear they are trying to have a monopoly on seeds? That is difficult to do when my friends are talking about, and I quote you describing a "documentary": "How about the film it links to, called Bitter Seeds which is a documentary about the impact of genetically modified cotton on Indias farmers and the suicide rate of over a quarter million Bt Cotton farmers each year due to financial stress resulting from massive crop failure and the price of Monsantos Bt seeds? The smaller seed companies I was referring to are generally independent operators and do not have the resources of Big Ag behind them. 2. rareseeds Also known as Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds, rareseeds is a company offering some of the more rare heirloom varieties out there. Because my clear meaning was to say I do not fit in those categories that others are trying to force upon me. As consumers, we have to bear the brunt of the responsibility for that. The length of this thread has now become ridiculous. You are free to say whatever you want and I don't complain or label what you say as a "campaign slogan" or "hollow" which is not respectful. I wasn't so much saying you were scare mongering as the article. And you are depending on the current legal climate, while Monsanto is using all that money you are putting in their coffers to try to alter the legal climate, so that they will ultimately have control of the food supply. 0000518883 00000 n A 200' pier ran out into Lake Charlevoix. We just have different ways of looking at this and won't change each other. The people who are against Monsanto aren't doing their cause any favors by spreading misinformation and the few articles I have read about the issue have been written by people who clearly have an agenda that isn't informing the public, but it to rally people to their cause by any means necessary. 0000015871 00000 n Kellogg. Yes, you have the burden of fact checking any information for yourself. Didn't know someone was trying to track the government officials who are making policy that allows Monsanto to continue along. They seem to have the best germination rate of any seeds I've tried and they have a lot of unusual or less modern plants (like varieties and even species used by Native Americans that you can't find easily elsewhere). "We do not buy seed from Monsanto-owned Seminis. We are all human and perfect accuracy is beyond all of us. I never would have guessed. Rice (Oryza sp) is the main food crop of 2.5 billion people across the globe, most living in third world countries of Asia and Africa. 0000493049 00000 n And I wonder if anyone has thought of trying to convince shareholders to stop supporting Big Agriculture? I personally have no opinion about Monsanto, except to roll my eyes when people scream about how they are going to control the food supply and kill us all. trailer <<3F3A45F4763244699204DF9EADBED2DB>]/Prev 598269/XRefStm 1737>> startxref 0 %%EOF 576 0 obj <>stream Add to Cart. Then I read: "Johnnys Seeds, Burpee Seeds, Territorial Seeds and Park Seeds Have Been Removed From This List, They Are Not Owned By Monsanto in Any way; These Companies Do Sell Great Quality Products In Whole." 2. a discussion involving differing points of view; debate: And no, I did not expect you to read all the links and report back on them to the thread. You're right, kilngod, someone should have researched before they put them on the list. They could care less about it. It also gives a list of seed companies that are not. I don't want to see this idea catching on that big companies can cherry pick the best varieties, not let us grow them, and the only way we can get them is by paying $5 for a plastic clamshell of them in Walmart as if they were blueberries out of season. I spent over 2 hours composing a post this morning, which amounted to defending what I meant by what I said and after two hours of that, had no time left to actually discuss GMOs. Besides which my overall choice to garden organically was made over 30 years ago, and open pollinated and non GMO seeds just fits right in with that point of view for me. But Monsanto and Bayer had a history back to the 1950s, in a joint venture called Mobay . Any seed you buy will not be GMO, unless you are a commercial farmer and then you will must sign a GMO agreement before they will sell you seeds. Ferry-Morse Basil Sweet Italian Herb Plant Seeds (1 Pack) - Seed Gardening, Full Sun. 0000003180 00000 n We are off-topic of avoiding GMO seeds (since all home garden seeds are GMO-free, even those from big bad Monsanto). It doesn't matter to activists that it has been debunked, and the falsehood is repeated, for whatever reason, by people who wish to gain public attention. This kind of statement makes the conversation now about me and keeps diverting the conversation away from the topic and adds lengthy discussion back and forth about me. They also had 50 seed in their sunflower packets. Soon many more garden seed companies bought from not only Burpee but also from Petoseed, companies as diverse as Ferry-Morse, Park's, Gurney's, Johnny's, Northrup King and Comstock-Ferre. You said it is an emotional issue and I respect that, but it doesn't give anyone the right to say hurtful things like not thinking what you say is important after coming this far. However there is one point I can beef up. Articles like that are written for people who think that every nonsense thing they read on the internet is true. When you infer (incorrectly) I could be labeling you, you miss the foundation of my point, which is that anti-Monsanto preachers and Monsanto marketers are a false dichotomy (a.k.a., an exclusion of the middle) and my context is that I will not succumb to either rhetorical extreme (faith-based or money-based). Heirloom seeds? About Ferry-Morse. I suspect it is a lack of awareness. I've made an attempt to at least present some links to what should be reliable sources of information. Do you have 12 months to wait for it? Maybe it was her fault for misunderstanding something or maybe it was the fault of whatever she read, but the fact is that all the vague (or downright inaccurate), sensationalist, and/or fear mongering information regarding GMO's and Monsanto that is out there is not really helping anything. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. Anyone have any information about that? The cries against GE crops can be so shrill and misinformed that it leads people to destroy test fields of the golden rice, ruining not only beneficial scientific progress and research, but medicine that children in poor countries desperately need. No, I've read everything including all links. Ferry-Morse has been a trusted seed brand since 1856. As of 2005 Ferry Morse is owned by Jiffy, makers of the Jiffy starter kits and based in Norway. There are so many, many tomato seeds in the world there has to be enough for everyone, that we can do without a couple, if it means gaining something more valuable. Hopefully if it is explained well enough others might get a better understanding of the issue. And this is just one example of you analyzing my contributions to the discussion. One is a technology and one is a company and equating them continuiously stymies critical thinking by fusing them together. 3. seedsNOW Is Ferry-Morse seeds owned by Monsanto? The company's headquarters were located in New Haven, Connecticut. And more detailed explanations about what you meant and what you think. I remember in a Facebook gardening group about a year, maybe a year and a half ago, a conversation came up about GMO's, Monsanto, and Scotts/Miracle-Gro. Ferry-Morse. And to report something that is fearful, is 'using fear as a weapon'? Operations in Charlevoix, Michigan began when the train lines extended up to that area in 1892, and a large Charlevoix warehouse facility was built in 1905 along the lake near the new Chicago and West Michigan Railway line. But in this reply you conclude in your post again referencing India with another false dilemma sometimes called The Appeal to Fear in a conclusion that is built on multiple conjectures that you have, and has also been called fear-mongering by others (but not my description of choice since I prefer to call it a logical fallacy). There is so much common ground between us, it can easily become eclipsed by the emotions surrounding this issue. for pricing and availability. As should every living person on the earth. McKenzie is Canada's #1 seed packet company. Is there any way to stop getting notifications of this topic? ~ GMOs dont seem to concern you is that right? I take umbrage to that comment. Ferry-Morse is a company that specializes in supplying seeds. Of course, papayas are not as important a crop as rice, the fact of the matter is, GE crops are not always 100% bad. I feel all comments among us should be assumed to be in good faith without having to win favor in "the benefit of the doubt", as this shouldn't be a political forum. I've shared my views on the subject and what I have done as a result of that and the names of seed companies that I use that make me feel I am living up to my own convictions. The other thing you said *about* being misquoted is *false*, quoting what you say now: "PC misquoted me, I said people becoming aware of the issue of GMOs was a good thing.". It is like watching supermarkets (Big Ag) swallow up the local produce markets (Kramer's Corner Peach Shop), and then either take control over and frequently discontinue products I like. A list of companies that sell seeds native to your area, and an area specific list of natives and invasives would be more productive. Youre concerned with a few tomato varieties but yet, you cant seem to grasp the concern opponents of GMO seeds have about the potential loss of ALL unadulterated seed that supplies the worlds food suppy? This is just disrespectful. And this is actually your version of limiting the scope of your discussion to only what was relative? Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse seeds have been sold continuously since before Abe Lincoln was President. It's a conspiracy theory website and anyone can post articles there. (all are Big ag GMO producers). Trouncing the entire field because we don't like some parts of it is effectively throwing the baby out with the bath water. If they include links to the proof, then I'll believe it. Anyone have any information about that?". I choose to evaluate products on a case by case basis rather than be preached to by articles (such as the info one that started this thread) or lobbies (such as those sponsored by lawyers on both sides, or lobbies). I provided eight links and you ignored seven. A marketer and a preacher are two even handed words in my vocabulary. Ferry bought land in California to grow crops for seed. Do you realize that many people already are avoiding all soy and corn because of the difficulty now of finding non GMO soy and corn? Similar to our situation with the food supply, dependence on the government is only a service to the government, never the governed. Molanic, I just finished reading that article in Mother Earth News. Here is a link to an article about it on the Huffington Post, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/leslie-hassler/bitter-seeds-documentary_b_2155970.html. Our favorite bit of history is that SUPERthrive was used in Disneyland Parks opening in 1955 to keep the new landscaping alive in the 100 degree summer weather. They are a Coop and have taken a strong position on this subject. [3] A. E. F. White, John Stoughton Newberry, and W. K. Anderson were also officers. It would be nice to have first-hand experience, accuracy, truthfulness and completeness in anything we read and I am quick to react when something doesn't smell right. Founded in 1856, Ferry-Morse seeds have been sold continuously in the United States. And I don't feel any need to defend my complete dislike of Monsanto and what they are about. There have been remarkable and beneficial gains made through their scientific research. 3. Do you see yourself as above the fray? Perhaps they were a little more subtle. Ferry seed catalogs, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ferry-Morse_Seed_Company&oldid=1144036611, Companies based in Santa Clara, California, Agriculture companies of the United States, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 11 March 2023, at 12:52. To blame it all on GE crops is not an accurate portrayal of reality. It does not refer to anything specific and is just disrespectful. Please research the 250,000 suicides issue you referenced in the earlier post. Expressing concern and making people aware of an issue, is not what I consider scare mongering. This company seems to be power hungry and has their own agenda as far as the food supply goes and seems to be lacking in integrity. Morse & Co.[8][9] Charles Copeland Morse died abruptly in 1900, and his son Lester Morse took over the business. 0000509934 00000 n Hollyhock Summer Carnival Mixed Colors Seed. Others have posted that the link is on some random site that makes no effort to insure quality information and that anyone can post anything they want, no matter how misleading, inaccurate or incomplete it is. I could easily conclude that you were looking for an argument about whether people should be boycotting GMO seed companies. You suggested that you respected this by saying afterwards: "I agree with you, it is an emotional issue, so sticking to facts and trying to say no less and no more than what you mean is important, just not always easy to do. If GMOs concern you, then what are your concerns? 202 S Washington St, Norton, MA 02766 Still any article or post or thread that criticizes GMO is a good thing to me, because it gets the word out. I have not appealed to you even to acknowledge that you told me millions of people are dying due to GMOs in India.

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